Wednesday, July 22, 2009

San Elijo Views

An anon comment to a recent post about a San Elijo project focused on motivations of the project appellants, and dismissed the issue of conformance with the law. Anon wrote, "The bottom line is... a small portion of the views of several homeowners in the Cardiff Cove project will be impacted."
I took the above photo a couple days ago and confirmed today that the story poles show the roof lines of the proposed buildings. Click to enlarge the photo. The story poles are on the left.

37 comments:

  1. Yaaaaaaawwwn.

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  2. Why no post about term limits or no poll?

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  3. story polls only illustrate one tenth the impact. no view ordinance in Encinitas unless you live above Orpheus Park and have a shoe-in with the council ... Jim, Dan and Jerry .....:(

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  4. Let's get a view ordinance. Make it retroactive to all plantings.

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  5. people are retarded around hereJuly 23, 2009 9:42 AM

    Why pay a million bucks to live so close to a stinky mosquito infested lagoon?

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  6. Anon 8:20. Stupid idea. Plants are the view.

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  7. View ordinances typically do not mandate cutting of plants. They create a process where plants obstructing other views (such as ocean) may be trimmed to include view windows. The first part of a view ordinance would be neighbors trying to "work it out". However, having an ordinance gives the view blockee some leverage to approach the view blocker. Only in a final stage would a committee actually require someone to create a view window.

    Where a plant was the view, the process would not mandate cutting.

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  8. 9:42 Why do you think they changed it from Cardiff by the slough?

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  9. A childs mentalityJuly 23, 2009 11:53 AM

    Read the grant deed of trust for your property, no where does it state you have a view of anything. Grow up people.

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  10. 11:53 - Don't get the logic on your comment. There are lots of conditions on my property that are a result of zoning and other laws and not expressly stated in my deed. People who want a view ordinance are not claiming that right, they want the city to create a process to allow properties to retain their views. This would be a new right, and therefore laws would be required.

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  11. there is no right to a view. remember that. If you currently have a view it can be blocked by another home or trees. Just ask Dr. Lorri. YOu only have a a guaranteed view if you live on the waters edge. Everyone else does not.

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  12. View ordinances are a combination of stupidity, greed and just mean spirited. The result seems to be trees being chopped down and the prevention of any new trees going in. Anyone who hasn't maxed-out their property gets the short end of the stick.

    If you want a view, buy a view property. Seems like everyone around this town thinks that their home was somehow special and when combined with their presence are a gift to the community. Nobody seems to think that their place also took away someone's view or added cars, etc.

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  13. "People who want a view ordinance are not claiming that right, they want the city to create a process to allow properties to retain their views."

    babble talk

    Should be rewritten- "People who want a view ordinance are not claiming that right, they just want that right!"

    The only ones who will win are the fricken attorneys.

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  14. Dr. Lorri is off the blog until such time she feels compelled to re-enter. That will make a lot of you very happy I'm sure. Have fun kids.

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  15. Dr. Lorri -that does not make me happy. Your views are very well thought out and well expressed. Hope you come back soon.

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  16. Why is Dr. L leaving us? Does anyone know/

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  17. She probably went over to the dark side.

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  18. Dr. Lorri-

    Any explaination why? what pissed you off this time?

    I like your comments and love your idea of term limits.

    I have never seen Dr. Lorri use the signin function. Maybe "lorri" is not the real Dr. Lorri?

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  19. Hypocrisy pissed her off according to my source, the good doctor herself. Can't say much more without pissing her off further. Besides I am her friend.

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  20. Kevin C,

    A view ordinance would be lame if it cuts away at the development rights and property values of residents. People shouldn't assume that their current view corridor is not encumbered by someone's potential building envelope, per the Encinitas Municipal Code.

    It is important to toss into the conversation that people can always negotiate a view easement their neighbors if they want to ensure their views.

    On the flip side I am all for shoring up the Municipal Code. It currently makes it easy for special people to cheat the EMC. There are a number of cases in Cardiff where people lost their views, not because their neighbors were exercising their property rights, but because they exceeded their property rights.

    Image: So, you check to see if your neighbor's building envelope will obstruct your view, before you buy your house and then somehow your neighbor exceeds the height limit (no variance). Even if you disagree with planning law, planning law is the rules we are suppose to play by and how we determine the price we should pay for our properties.

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  21. Good point Kevin.

    No view ordinance needed. Just no corrupt politicians.

    Its simple. Once the public gives a shit our problems are solved.

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  22. Cardiffian.

    Hypocrisy is the current Encinitas way sorry to say.

    not ten years ago, but today.


    Soooo, if Dr. Lorri is giving up on our current state of City, then that's to bad.

    Best of luck with her and her dream world back with Mary Poppins.

    good bye Dr. Kookoosnest.

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  23. The courts have been clear on view ordinances - those that affect building envelope do not pass muster, those that affect plants do pass muster.

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  24. Lorri and Fred are off to get hitched.

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  25. Ding dong the blog is dead. Neither Kevin or J.p have the energy for it I guess. Anyone interested in stating another blog.

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  26. If you are from Cardiff go to:

    http://www.cardiffschooltax.com link to BLOG

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  27. Thanks Cardiff person. Can you start another blog for Caridiff? Sure would be nice to have an alternative, since this one appears to be dead.

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  28. "I'm not dead yet. I feel like going for a walk"
    "It's just pineing for the fiords."

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  29. Yeah... thats some Blog alright. Keep up the good work.

    If you all think its so easy, go for it and start another blog.

    I will continue to enjoy this one, because this is where the raw truth is told, although people don't always like the raw truth.

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  30. there a few people who are pining for this blog to die.

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  31. For the record, I am still reading this blog, just not posting except to say that Lorri and Dr. Lorri are not the same people.

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  32. 4:24
    Thanks Dr. I knew that was the case without wondering. That poser.

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  33. Dr. Lorri. one more post please. Why did you quite posting? Did the morons get you down?

    its a shame. I enjoyed and respected your posts. Plus about 85% of the time, I agreed with you.

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  34. Fair enough, one more post. I will not say why I quit posting on this blog, except that I am a bit concerned about the lack of transparency that is not being presented by some of the more "famous" bloggers, especially J.P. You will have to ask him what I mean, as I am sure he knows. If he doesn't, then I would be surprised and a bit concerned. No one has gotten to me, as I am Irish and a fighter. Honesty and intelligence are important to me. I don't care if you agree with me, just do not pretend to know something you don't know, or pretend that something is what it isn't. I have nothing to prove to anyone, except myself and the very few people I call my friends. By the way I do consider Lynn and Russell friends and I have always hated the way people keep trashing them. However, that was never enough to keep me off this blog. I have been called many things on this blog. I have always posted by Dr. Lorri. I stand by my words and will answer you honestly if asked. Just like the Mark Muir party. I honestly forgot that part of the post and then added that I had attended a library fundraiser at his home. I could have said I had not, as I don't know if any of you anonymous posters were there. Heck, I do not know who the RSPB is for that matter. The only posters I know who they are, are Left Coast, bbondi, Lynn, Russ, and anyone else who has the courage to post his or her own name. I am actively looking into the intricacies term limits, however I don't need this blog to do it. You have been a part of my life for a very long time and I wish you all well. I will read, I just won't post. so, that is my final answer.
    With love,
    Dr. Lorri AKA Lorri Greene

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  35. "I will not say why I quit posting on this blog, except that I am a bit concerned about the lack of transparency that is not being presented by some of the more "famous" bloggers, especially J.P. You will have to ask him what I mean, as I am sure he knows. If he doesn't, then I would be surprised and a bit concerned."

    So Dr. Lorri Greene will not say why she quite posting. Oh well.

    JP- Do you have anything to add to explain her statements. What does she mean? She said you should know. She also wants transparency, so please let’s have it.

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  36. J.P. what's up? Is she really just plain crazy or is there something to this.

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  37. Stop treating JP and Kevin like employees.

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