Friday, January 08, 2010

Are these Walkable?

No auto traffic. Next to bus routes.





Good Lighting

Plaza like

Art by Encinitas Resident



Hush Puppy "Mall Walkers"


Definitions of Walkable

Fred's: Leucadia's business district means just about any flat surface that doesn't trip you, or make you wade through quagmire.

Anon's: True walkable communities you step out your door in the nice open air and walk or ride your bike to your destination while enjoying the outdoors, sun, moon, breeze, other animals, neighbors, and all local the community.

Anon 1139: Walkable is a touchy, feel good marketing term to get people to take mass (or group) transit.

20 comments:

  1. True walkable communities are greatJanuary 08, 2010 6:45 AM

    They are bus walkable and car,traffic, huge parking lot with agro people walkable; not true walkable.....there is a big difference.

    Walkable is you can leave your home on bike or foot and don't need to step in a sketchy bus which tends to frequent all the left overs in society that can't afford or shouldn't be driving a car. The unfortunate reality is the quality of the bus trip experience is pretty low. Trains and other mass transit such as Coaster, SD Trolley, and BART are better.

    True walkable communities you step out your door in the nice open air and walk or ride your bike to your destination while enjoying the outdoors, sun, moon, breeze, other animals, neighbors, and all local the community.

    Building community is important so neighbors take ownership of their neighborhoods. Otherwise blight ghetto creeps in.

    There is a big difference in my opinion. What yours?

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  2. If walkable is about the route to centers of consumption the streetscape does not address much in the way of walkability. ex: rail road barrier, vulcan and Leucadia blvd intersection, all the side streets, and the fact that most people live greater than 15 minutes by bike to any particular shop on the 101. Who has all this extra time to spend on walking everywhere just to pick up a quart of milk? It is socially spoiled to think people have that much excess time on their hands.

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  3. Does the new streetscape plan include a railroad barrier?

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  4. 6:45 am I don't think of myself as a "leftover." I do own cars, but I find the bus clean, convenient, and I can do work while I ride. Stop being such a yuppie snob.

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  5. Funny about perception. . . When I see those photos I think blight. All consumption and no connections to life's essentials. Monuments to 'stuff' . . .

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  6. Monuments to stuff just like all the upscale cedros drive?

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  7. To transit snob,

    I work on the clock and my boss will not pay for my commute time. If you will pay for my commute time I will take the bus every single day.

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  8. I never heard the streetscape includes a RR barrier. Thats new to me. That one must be coming from group of opposite truths- Rick, Ray, Lynn, and Mike. Phffff!

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  9. I know that this is the "vision" shared by developers and city staffers...it's called making money, and forget any individual character....cookie cutter consumption and vanilla icing on the top. If this is what Leucadia turns into to, please, just give me a gun now, and let me shoot myself.

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  10. anon 645,

    sounds like you should have moved to a small rural town.

    anon 7:57,

    There is a legal barrier to crossing the tracks and there will be a big fence when they double track. They are going to build only two pedestrian track crossings in Leucadia.

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  11. 8:39,

    The streetscape completely ignores walkablity of the routes to get to the 101.

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  12. Leucadia and UTC are completely different animals.

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  13. Is UTC walkable?

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  14. Walkable is defined by each person's experience. If you walked to school on a dirt road, that's walkable. In the city, sidewalks and curbs define walkable by providing an imaginary barrier between the pedestrian and the motorist.
    Walkable is a touchy, feel good marketing term to get people to take mass (or group) transit. It's a marketing term to get higher density buildings build.
    New York is walkable, but not livable friendly.
    Walkable is great if you can still walk without problems, and the destination is less than a tenth of a mile without an incline. Remember, you still have to walk back home.
    Before the car, the horse was the main transportation.
    Can you imagine the cowboy in a western saying he is giving up his horse to live in a walkable town?
    Time to get off the walkable trolley and rethink transportation to include everything.

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  15. 10:39,
    So you are saying that walkable means anything and so it means nothing?

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  16. walk⋅a⋅ble  /ˈwɔkəbəl/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [waw-kuh-buhl] Show IPA
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    –adjective 1. capable of being traveled, crossed, or covered by walking: a walkable road; a walkable distance.
    2. suited to or adapted for walking: walkable shoes.

    But walkable to Leucadia's business district means just about any flat surface that doesn't trip you, or make you wade through quagmire.

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  17. Thank you, Fred.

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  18. Leucadia is walkable now...just not safe.

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  19. Well hell. Why fix it if it ain't safe?

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  20. I been walkin' around leucadia for a long time and nothing unsafe has happened to me. Plus, when I walk around I find cool stuff in people's garbage.

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