Tuesday, November 23, 2010

City Hall Gets Touchy Feely

It is kinda funny how most of the council thinks that the government shouldn't be involved in telling developers what their developments should look like and then at the General Plan Workshop the attendants are asked how they "feel" about a bunch of photos of different street frontages. A lot of time was spent on that.

At the meeting, staff said the images wouldn't be online so we had to come up with our own set.

"How do you feel when you see?"

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23 comments:

  1. 1. Good
    2. Bad
    3. Good
    4. Bad
    5. Good
    6. Bad

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  2. That horrendous Pacific Station should be renamed - Pacific Tsunami, Pacific Puke, Loft's Abortion, Dalager's Disaster, $tock$ $tigma . . .
    Is this the fate of Pacific View????

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  3. The slide show put on by the consultant might be on line by now. However, at least one of the more bleak photos (doubtful that it was taken in Encinitas) appears to be missing. The presentation was an indoctrination of mixed use and the smarth growth crap that has been rejected by the community. In the city's planning department (read Director) that rejection hasn't soaked in yet. Hard to believe that the consultant's presentation happened in a vacuum without city directives given to him.

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  4. can you find the slide show online? i can not.

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  5. I heard Whole Foods pulled out of Pacific Station.

    Truth or rumor?

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  6. "that rejection hasn't soaked in yet." Maybe it hasn't soaked into the community that the community doesn't get to decide. Like it or leave.

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  7. Where to find the presentation online? Go to:
    www.encinitas2035.info

    click on documents (right side of page)
    then scroll down and click on Nov. 16 workshop (which will go to the presentation documents).

    However, since the consultant didn't have any handouts of the photos he used, there is no way of confirming that what is online is the true and actual presentation given at the community center.

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  8. 10:42,

    I did a little research, and it sounds like Whole Foods is probably still coming in Spring 2011.

    Please e-mail me if you have any more info.

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  9. I can't wait for the Whole Foods! We've been without a market downtown way too long, since the Community Market closed. I like Pacific Station, if it brings in a market and more people to keep our restaurants in business. It is downtown, after all. I wouldn't want to live there, but I think it's a plus. Maybe some restaurants and coffee shops will stay open later than 9:00 now.

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  10. Yes! this sleepy little beach town SUCKS. We need a good night life and hustle and bustle until 2am!

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  11. Happy
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  12. I thought that's why we elected our council - they need to make these decisions, not part time activist who don't represent me!

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  13. The Council is suppose to represent the will of the people in the community providing no harm is caused. These forums were put in place so our voices are heard not just backdoor big money influencing the development for there gain.

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  14. 829,

    Good point. Why are we paying a million bucks to survey the people and hold lame "workshops"?

    Why aren't the council member playing lead roles in the workshops and all the GP meetings?

    Did the general plan update come up as an election issue this time or the last time? Does Barth and Gaspar really represent the people on this issue?

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  15. 843,

    How do you know your voice was heard?

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  16. Has anyone studied the parking situation that will ensue once the "Pacific Station" opens? Parking is already quite difficult downtown and it will be made worse when this place opens. Turning is near impossible with the combination of fast traffic and bicyclists; get ready for the crunchers to come! Underground parking??!! People can't navigate topside - this underground will be destruction derby. Whoever allowed this monstrosity to be built was paid off by somebody...

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  17. Why do you think the city put in the million dollar parking lot across the tracks from pacific station?

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  18. 9.14 I won't know my voice was heard until the General Plan is completed. The idea that the council represents all of us just is just B.S. I've never been asked what I think other than at these workshops and I've told them what I think at council meetings. If you don't participate no one will ever hear your opinions.
    If you like the way the boys were running the city your happy I'm not and I'm hoping things will be different now thou I'm not holding my breath.

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  19. Million dollar parking lot across the tracks?? That little strip of pavement ???? No one will park there in order to shop in that center - there is no easy access and the distance to walk will deter people. Smart and Final did it right - they moved into the former Albertsons site on Encinitas Blvd. and their business has boomed. It has easy access and ample parking - essential elements to attract customers. Pacific Station lacks both.

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  20. time will tell. I say any downtown grocery store will prosper just like sea side market.

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  21. What's so good/happy about photo #1?

    Yes, the trees/greenery are quite nice, but the photo subject is predominantly a road made for cars, and I suspect they travel at a fairly high rate of speed.

    Pedestrians/cyclists are not shown in the photo, nor is it evident that there is a good way for pedestrians cross the road.

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  22. Sea Side Market has immediate parking, although it is crowded and hectic.

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  23. Seaside is good, but it is more expensive than the Whole Foods in La Jolla, the produce is of poor quality, and they lack "healthier" options available at Jimbos and Whole Foods. I realize they cater to a more diverse crowd, but they are not big enough to support their market.

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