Thursday, December 30, 2010

Leucadia Bluff collapse 2010

CH 10 News coverage (with non-embeddable video) story with side view photo.

North County Times story with best photos
Photo swiped from the North County Times.

Stray Observations:

Seawalls prevent bluff failures, but there is a sea wall here.

The dangling bodyboard is a nice touch. Who is going to rescue this poor kid's bodyboard?

Why do people hate on Neptune homeowners so much, but have sympathy if someone's home slides off a hill inland?

Encinitas Patch reports storm caused no major damage, with photos of a home about to fall into the ocean.


  1. The future of AmericaDecember 30, 2010 11:58 PM

    A much bigger story for Encinitas than a little bluff slough along the coast.

    you will need to cut and paste. This video is a must for every citizen in the USA. This video will be shown in History classes for the next 50 years in America. Its that big.

  2. A must see for all AmericansDecember 31, 2010 12:17 AM

    I can't wait to hear RINO Jerome Stocks who pumped up his own pay and pension along with all City Employees up 35% in 2005 repsond to being owned by the unions. We are screwed. Mr. Stocks please respond to your actions after watching the first three videos in this link.

  3. That 60 Minutes video is correct about the magnitude of the problem. The question is about the timing.

    The 60 Minutes conclusion is the crisis will come to a head in 2011. I'm not so sure. I've been watching California kick the can down the road for three years now with federal bailouts, accounting gimmicks, and borrowing. I'm not so sure the games can't continue a little longer.

    I wouldn't be surprised to see the new Republican Congress cave and give away billions to the states. Even with the Tea Party victories last fall, there are still a large number of establishment Republicans who will want to bail out their state and local buddies (like Bilbray for Stocks and Gaspar?).

    And if Congress doesn't bail out the states again and munis start defaulting? Expect the Federal Reserve to start bailing them out by printing money to buy muni debt.

  4. Who gives a crap if someone's a RINO, as if 'Republican' wasn't derogatory enough? And sure, city hall is run by corrupt bastards, but what's pension reform got to do with bluff erosion? Save it for a relevant post.

    People who live on Neptune can afford access to anything they need to make good decisions, yet they're committed to living on unstable ground. Sure it sucks that their property's falling into the ocean but it's not like it's a surprise. Erosion's been shaping the shoreline since long before humans got here. Nature isn't attacking their homes; their homes are simply in the way. It's a slow motion disaster that we can see happening. Just take the hint and fucking move already. It's not that much of a hardship for people with the knowledge, foresight and resources.

  5. Coastal Millionaire quit whinning already and move. It's call planned retreat, plan on moving to your mountain or desert retreat.

    Take that money you were going to spend on a wall and spend it on people who can't even afford food.

    Get your priorities straight.

  6. Government employees what everything given to them without earning it. They are leaches. We on Neptune are much smarter than all the employee and council members at city hall combine.

    They are morons and jealous they can't survive and prosper in America without having a workfare job with Government.

    Sorry loser government employees. You'll never get it and you'll never enjoy the good life like I do.

    I earned it. You didn't and you suck!

  7. You don't have to live on the bluff to be a jerk, but it helps. Kidding aside, there are some real nice folks who stand to lose a lot of money or property and they should receive our compassion. In the same breath they knew full well that the bluff recedes no matter what. The cheap walls (wood and whatever) fail quicker than concrete but they all eventually give away. Look at the concrete walls south of Beacons, the re-bar is rusting and causing the concrete to explode. Just a matter of time before they come down.
    Anyone else notice the rip-rap is moving around now that the sand is slipping away. Wonder how long before a boulder kills someone? And how come the rip-rap just south of Beacons was never removed? Looks ugly and was supposed to be removed after construction of the walls. Where is the Coastal Commission? Surfrider? Coast Law Jerks?

  8. if it swells ride itJanuary 01, 2011 9:25 AM

    More sand for a bar at whitefence.

  9. As the post says, why do people think it's funny when coastal homes have landslides but a tragedy when it happens inland? This collapse was not due to erosion from waves, it was due to too much rain. This type of collapse can happen to any house situated on a hillside, proximity to the ocean had nothing to do with this one. I guess you can say "serves them right for building a house in a dangerous area." But you could say the same thing about people who live in New Orleans, or everyone in Southern California. Will it be funny when an 8.0 earthquake destroys houses in Southern California? After all, we all know it's inevitable that will happen eventually. Or is it only funny when houses worth more than $2 million are destroyed by the inevitable natural disaster?

  10. If you look closely you will see that the sand is all but gone, stripped by wave action and high tides. This has caused significant undermining of the lower seawall. The vegitation on the bluff was over watered for years allowing it to grow to heavy before all the rain. I don't think this is funny but I have surfed in front of this house for years. Alot of us saw it comming. The owner should have too!

  11. One of the major problems with coastal property is water intrusion. Irrigation from inland areas percolate to the harder substrata and move gravitationally to the coast. Constant water seepage accelerates erosion, as does hidden squirrel holes or excessive activity on the surface. Self Realization Fellowship installed underground water diversion collection pipes years ago - these divert the inland water seepage to the periphery of the property and away from the fragile sandstone bluffs. All vegetation on a coastal property should be xeriscape or drought resistant plant species - excessive irrigation is an invitation to disaster. Shoreing up a property once it has collapsed is very expensive and permit intensive. Basically, you may as well have another mortagage, as no insurance covers bluff collapse.

  12. Property owners have the risks and rewards. All the watering of the iceplant and non-natives on the mid-bluff was smart...probably not. Glad the catamarans didn't bonk someone on the melon.


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