Saturday, December 04, 2010

Low Income Housing

From the inbox:

How things work in Leucaida

1. Low income family lives in an old house on greenhouse property.

2. Developer subdivides property and asks for a density bonus, that is only available to those doing large developments and is granted regardless of proximity to mass transit or a local coffee shop.

3. Developer gets density bonus for providing a place for low income people to live. Yes, it can be the same house that was already occupied by low income families and, yes, you can end up with less free market low income housing in the end.

4. Developer builds out the development and the old house is bulldozed. Zero low income housing.

John

Bloggers note: Below shows where there was once a home housing a lower income family and now awaiting  (years) to become a density bonus low income house.
Houlihan waved her hands at the Density Bonus stuff a few years ago. Other than that, there has been no real effort to fix this homespun density bonus law. What can be done? 
1. Make it a council goal to adopt a density bonus ordinance that closes grand canyon loopholes and makes sure it is consistent with other city goals, 
2. work with our state reps to change the state law. The council (disingenuously?) complains about density bonus but does not follow through on changing the law.

32 comments:

  1. people should have property rights and a City should be able to set its on zoning density. the State has no business in zoning period. Repeal density bonus laws. They are stupid. Anyone supporting them are stupid. As your state legislator if they support density bonus laws.

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  2. I thought Hermes was all low income housing!

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  3. Hermes and North Vulcan!

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  4. GASPAR WILL FIX EVERYTHING.

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  5. Cities all over California tried to get the density bonus law fixed but the "fix" was worse than the original law.

    Follow the money....developers own most state legislatures.

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  6. Low income housing does not exist in this city. Yeah, you can buy a condo in Cardiff in the high threes and and a few homes for four hundred K here and there but if you want a single family home with a real yard... Forget about it! The city does not want it! The city would collapse if it had to have low income housing. The city's tax base depends on expensive homes. Density is coming to our town but not low income housing.

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  7. Better dig out more than your change purse if you want to buy on Hermes or Vulcan.

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  8. Where is the low income housing in RSF and Del Mar? Surely all the trailer parks in Leucadia and Encinitas and apartment buildings along Vulcan put us over the top with low income housing already...

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  9. RSF gets out of low-income housing because it's an unincorporated area of the county.

    That would be another benefit of de-incorporating Encinitas in addition to getting out of our unsustainable pension obligations.

    Del Mar probably doesn't run into the issue because it is fully built-out so doesn't need state approval for any new developments.

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  10. Deincorporation - how does that come about?

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  11. There has been a rumour for years that the city would adopt a building code zoning ordinance that would stipulate a standard minimum type of residence, thus eliminating the trailer parks and old beach style shantis thru-out Leucadia. I think it even came close to a proposal, but was backed off of when an outcry went up about the massive land grab it represented. The current failed economy has stalled such efforts, but it will come back around again. Southern California is expecting a growth surge over the next 20 years, and the wealthiest class will be looking at the prime locations - along the coast. America - the land of the privledged - they buy what they want and drive the peasants out.

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  12. I heard a woman the other night who was seemed proud of her contempt for the poor. She asserted she didn't want a poor family living in her neighborhood. When did being poor become so hateful? What is the WTF? What is the matter with people in this country that has become empire?

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  13. Yes, trailer park owners will be persona non grada soon. The city does not want them either. The city wants to maximize their tax base. it will be retail on the first floor and two floors of residental above. This is what they want for Vucan and the 101 corridor, and huge 4500 sq foot homes stuffed on tiny lots everywhere else.

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  14. WTF - The election is over. Either quit complaining or move! Or better yet, in 2 years in should run for office so that we can all call you a fool.

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  15. The current General Plan is quite adequate at keeping the neighborhoods as they are. A few places in the Plan need tweeking. The first change should be the elimnation of the Policies that allow a super majority of the Council to amendment the General Plan. Amendments shall only be added by a vote of the people.

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  16. 856,

    We are only allowed to weigh in and evaluate the actions of our government in the 4 weeks prior to the election?

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  17. 806,

    Let's face reality. There are lots of cities that are very poor. It is a lot cheaper to live there but you choose to live in wealthy suburbia. What makes you all that different than the lady you overheard?

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  18. Back in '91, the folks and I were at a city hall meeting fighting redevelopment in Leucadia (during it's first round). Andy Kentera yelled from the audience "Put all the low cost housing on Lone Jack Road!" (a place where some of the council members lived). An upscale lady from Olivenhain then got up and spoke against low cost housing. She whined: "Well, low cost housing, it's, it's just so bad for the kids!" to which my dad leaned over and whispered to me: "Livin' next door to millionaires never bothered me."

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  19. Moral = its better to live next to rich people.

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  20. That's what Republicans would want you to believe... Just ask Bitch Mcconnell and John Boner. Trickle down economics my ass! Who owns their own house and nice car and all the shit that goes with it, with no mortgage and car payments and credit cards payed in full. Most are all living a lie.

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  21. The Supreme Court (Supreme Joke) modified the concept of condemnation of private property to include the elitist twist of the "highest economic good". That means if someone can develop a property to a 'higher value', it can be confiscated by imminent domain. That would mean that Leucadia as it now exists could be demolished and rebuilt with luxury homes - accessible only to a minority (uber-wealthy). It provides a higher tax basis for the city; therefore the highest economic good. Something stinks in America - the arrogance of the wealthy, who have the laws written to their accomodation. The current wars are an extension of this concept - the elite own the munitions factories and have the investments in overseas resources. Let the youth of the poorer classes fight for their bottom line $$$$$$ - pass more caviar!!!

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  22. Totally off subject. Sorry!! But, everyone seems to be out of Kook Calandars. Does anyone know who may still have some? Or, when a reprint may come out.

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  23. I saw them at Cardiff Seaside market yesterday.

    BTW, I have my house paid off, two cars and no credit card debt. But I do not own a cel phone, a flat screen TV, a crackberry, or cable TV. I guess I must hate America.

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  24. Even further off topic...

    9:59
    Seaside should still have some. But the other places should be restocked by Tues. with the 2nd Edition. ty

    3:34 & 8:17
    About 20 years ago when my father and I worked at San Dieguito HSD, I was about to drink a few ounces of wheatgrass juice. I said: "Would you like to try this, Dad?" and he said: "No thanks, I just had a toad stool."
    What would the moral of that one be?

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  25. anon10:16- Good for you. You have freedom, which means govt hates you.

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  26. Fred - Thanks, and thanks for the calandar, and yes, Seaside had some!!

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  27. Anon 8:17 says... Fred: If it looks like shit and it tastes like shit.... It must be shit! Glad I didn't eat it! My dad always told me... Don't believe anything you hear, half of what you see and none of what you think you know.

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  28. 10:16: Did you pay for your house with only YOUR hard earned money or did you inherit it from your folks?

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  29. 347,

    All my own earnings. I could have lived large and been in debt, but I decided not to do what you did.

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  30. I did not. Those who used their home equity like an ATM were foolish. Just curious to know how many are out there. I am debt free but not rich.

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  31. I bought my wife huge fake tits. Than when the housing market popped and I could pay for anymore of her libosuction, she left me.

    The old saying is true.... the fastest way to loose your wife is buy her fake tits for someone else.

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  32. 3:35

    I believe the punchline to that old joke is "Glad I didn't step in it". But as my Dad would say, "If you were gonna pull off something old, you coulda pulled off your socks."

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