Friday, November 09, 2012

Opportunities

The changing of the guard at city hall presents all sorts of opportunities.

Opportunities
Over the last decade many people have attempted to help bring solutions to the city, but ended up fighting city hall for the simple recognition the problems. Denial of problems was frequently accompanied with public dismal and private, and sometimes public, name calling by council members. Many citizens were labelled whiners and malcontents. Some of these citizens are now council members, so we can hope that will change.   

There was also a somewhat grounded claim of partisanship and unequal vigor in the critical appraisal of city leaders. The new council should be given the same level of slack given to the previous. Not only will the council members be under the microscope, so will their supporters. Nothing less than highly ethical and respectful behavior should be expected.

Nobody's perfect. We should  expect our city's new leadership to address mistakes rather than sweep them under the rug. Hiding mistakes is better for personal political careers, but stepping up to mistakes is better for the public's interest. Being open with the public is the fundamental difference between the practices of the old council majority and the promise of the new.

This is an opportunity for the citizens of Encinitas to demonstrate that they are motivated to participate in developing and implementing smart and broadly appreciated solutions--an opportunity to show that their desire to "dump stocks" was about bringing better public policy and public administration to our hometown and not personal or petty (for most people). A few citizens who consistently spend their valuable time participating in the public discourse are deeply generous and care enough for the future residents of our hometown that they give up their time and attention. Their dedication is to the future, so they spend their time on unconformable and hard problems, rather than engaging in personally satisfying past-times or relatively comfortable or quick window dressing civic support.

This is an opportunity for their efforts to be genuinely considered, rather than being feared. 

It is an opportunity to show that who gets elected matters.  There is still a political machine, which has temporarily lost control of city hall and will want to own city hall again. That machine is funded by developers and aligned with the union leadership. Next time the machine will know they need to spend more money. A LOT MORE MONEY. Without a system to counter-balance misinformation, the next election is going to be even more over the top.

How Much Does Character Matter? 
That political machine tried to scare the dickens out of the public. If Tony and Lisa were elected the city would go to hell and Tony would go City Hall rage! Tony now has 4 years to show that getting into it with that dude down in San Diego isn't a reflection of how he will handle himself at city hall.

Now,  if that sort of behavior matters, what did Jerome's "psychological assessment" say and why wasn't that sent out by the SDCounty Voters for Progress?  Jerome conducted himself with consistency horrible interpersonal interactions, but that did not stop former Mayors, law enforcement, or fire fighters from endorsing him.

On the other hand, Jerome was raw and let people know he did not care for their views or feedback. Is that better than being phony or responding with non-answers, or passive aggressive behavior?

The Jim-Tony phone call thing remains an awkward "he said, he doesn't want to get into a he said, he said" thing. No student witnesses came forward, as far as I know, but if Jim wants to put us into contact with them that changes things. One thing that both Jim and Tony openly agree on is that a phone call was made about the signs being taken from Tony's garage. The press and the political machine (and Stocks directly) tried to make fun of Tony as being a really bad liar. Did Tony make up a story that his signs were taken?

Jim's account erased any doubt that Tony had fabricated a story about his signs going missing from his garage and that he was the one removing the early signs from Leucadia Blvd.

Below was the funniest political art of the email campaigns.

Tony gets the opportunity to demonstrate that his behavior represents an improvement at City Hall. We hope to be the first to publish Jim's follow up writings if Tony does not.


An Opportunity for an Important Major Shift
Lisa and Tony can have a huge impact on the city. Some campaign contributors behind the anti-Tony election mailers got so scared that Tony and Lisa would bring change to city hall that they pulled some pretty lame stuff. 

Instead of telling the electorate what they were really afraid of (developers and employees losing special favors) they made shit up (Tony and Lisa were extreme occupiers).  A couple unknown dudes and photographer(s) associated with the opposition campaign crashed Tony and Lisa's campaign kickoff. They got their picture in front of Tony and Lisa, who were not looking as happy to be recorded together as the two strangers were (never to be seen again).



Rumor has it that Tony didn't go postal, but was extremely courteous, to the interlopers. We can assume that any such incident would have been photographed and used in mailers.



The radical change that the election of Tony and Lisa represent is a dedication to the public good, over the private profit of their supporters. We think that is why people voted for them, at least.

Tony has spent a lot of time working on public policy. Stuff that doesn't fit on a mailer. The one thing we can say is that he is genuinely interested in a better city hall. That effort extends beyond the possible recognition that he would get in return.

Only one person took the time to go over all the roads reports, public records law, AND call the contractor (adding evidence that the city was lying), and go to the council with a path to avoid loosing a public records lawsuit. That was Tony. None of those hundreds of hours of work translated directly into extra votes for Tony.

We hope he continues to put the public good before his personal political agenda.  

How the Republican Party Gave the Race to Tony and Lisa
The Republican Party supports candidates for Encinitas city council who increase taxes, increases bureaucracy, adds regulation at the same time as reduces bureaucratic accountability, takes the city into more debt (blindly) and straps the future with an unsustainable pension system. Given that the republicans in the race seemed to ignore this history, its no surprise that many fiscal conservatives in this city refuse to register with any party and are happy to vote Lisa and Tony, because they were more fiscally conservative than the republican candidates. Tony and Lisa were given a gift by the Republican Party leadership.


Candidate Kevin Forrester would not respond to an invitation to discuss and reconcile our views about Encinitas city hall's open government practices or how it was possible that a few NIMBYs were responsible for the decade of delays to the Hall park, even though it was now obvious that financial difficulties had been a major problem for the project (plus all the other stuff). Forrester grossly ignored or was (willfully?) ignorant of open government law violations. Forrester's campaign highlighted that he was an attorney and a mediator. Ironic.

The election result is an opportunity to move further away from party politics and show republican leaders it is time to be about principles rather than being a good ol' boy club. When the republicans pick candidates who are genuine, they will have an easy time taking back city hall.

The Possibility for More Empty Disk Space
This is an opportunity to clear out the computer files. Jerome's history was broad and wide. It was hard to keep up with him (Sandag, NCTD, CH). Where ever he went, he provided great writing fodder. We've got a lifetime worth of clips of Jerome that make for great blogging. I don't think we ever got to the one below, perhaps because we actually try to focus on important things. This is just to bizarre to never post. Think of it as a farewell clipping.



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What boat access points? We don't actually have world-class surf. World-class surf is filled with international surf travelers. Our waves are fun, and sometimes sick, but never worth flying internationally, because on the best days the waves are stupid lame crowded. You're lucky if you catch two waves without having to dodge people.

Most local surfers would choose to move to the ranch rather than live in Encinitas if given the choice to house swap.

Opportunity for Financial Disclosure
A real analysis of the city's finances is the promise. 



We hope this new council will become the benchmark for the inclusion of all points of view. Dr. Shaffer should be the shinning of example for the council by answering even the toughest questions posed by people openly opposed to her initial positions.


Barth's Stage for Partial Vindication
The change on the council gives her a chance to shed some of the cloud following the harassment reports. It didn't just go away on its own.

Many in the community, not interested in public policy or the reality of the city's administration, wanted the council to "just get along." One way to do that is to dump all dissenters and build a parallel thinking council. It will be interesting to see if they now think we should get rid of any minority members of the council in the name of kumbaya.

This is an opportunity for Barth to demonstrate the respect she requested while in the minority.

This is also an opportunity for Barth to show that she is in office to make changes to public policy, and that the only reason she was not bringing legislation to the table was that she was cutoff by being in the minority.

It is also an opportunity to show that she was kept from being mayor because she would agendize the discussion of things the former majority wanted to keep away from the public, things that would be politically uncomfortable, but good for the public interest.


Barth has the support of much of the community because they believe she will keep her word to do things like:
  • letting the voters decide on increased density,
  • requiring an independent audit, prudent fiscal policies, 
  • meeting the needs of the present without compromising the future generation, and 
  • decreasing expenses through accountability.
She now has the opportunity to put these issues in front of the public for discussion. Let's see who shows up to participate, now that the discussion will be about the issues rather than about personal smear campaigns that are half to not at all true.

If they don't show up, we still will. We will hold all 5 council members accountable and give them no more slack than we gave Jerome, because we won't be personal or partisan when it comes to public policy and public administration. 


40 comments:

  1. I wonder if it would be possible to consider returning the hall property to the original Planning Commission outcome. The commission and the public spent two nights to hammer it out. Even the name of the park was put out to committee and their choices were thrown out. A lot of public input ignored.

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  2. Not without creating a huge ethical, political, and financial disaster.

    That opportunity was addressed in many of the past elections.

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  3. I think the new council should look at what a sustainable park infrastructure looks like and its intended uses. How many fields are really needed, whats the true cost, how much will they charge private leagues for use, what will be the on going overhead cost to the taxpayers of Encinitas. These parks cost big bucks to maintain, and the ongoing finance plan including operations and maintenance should be a transparent report to Council for full public review and input. I am sure our new open transparent City Council will embrace this idea and Gus will need to come clean or he will be out.

    All the past lies will be apparent. This should be a fun report to review and a really good public hearing to assure we are getting a Sports Park that Encinitas citizens really want and are willing to pay for.

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  4. I agree with Becky and would like to see this addressed at an upcoming Council Meeting.

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  5. Of all the issues the city has dealt with over the last twelve years that reflect the inequity of the past council majority rule, the Hall Park debacle is the most unfair.
    The facts have been hidden, documents altered, approved plans changed behind closed doors, survey results hidden and more. Our past councils have directed a decade of division in our city.
    The 10 year battle was one side wanted a community park with 3 or four sports fields. The otherside was promised all sports field for regional sports tourneys.
    www.EncinitasCommunityPark.blogspot.com
    The current plan that is called the "complete park" is not only far removed from what the community input indicated, it is an expansion of fields and elimination of other amenities.
    What seems not to be noticed in this middle of the summer, limited notice, multi-million dollar plan is that the field count has increased and ammenities decreased. What was approved at a special untelivised meeting with the least possible notice now looks like seven fields and no tennis, basketball, volleyball or any court sports, no teen center, no ampatheatre, aqatic center and an allowable cancer level of contaminated soil is what have planned. There was no financial material available at the meeting. The hastely called meeting only had about 15 sheets of foamboard handwritten details with figures and graphs that the limited audience could not see.
    Yes, changes can be implimented.
    The only reason there has been NO compromise is the utter control the same majority has had for 12 years.
    There is no reason why should not continue the quest to have ammenities for all rather than an 'Irvine Special Use Sports Park' in our future.


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  6. It is important to know our history of the park. There have been many valuable and truthful LB posts on the Hall property. Look up "Hall" in archives or start here:

    http://www.theleucadiablog.com/2010/02/keeping-park-unbuilt-is-better-for.html

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  7. Any changes, delay or new revisions or review to the park will cost taxpayers even more time, money and division. Let it go. We lost so let's move forward.

    The teen center and aquatic park were to be done in future phases from the beginning.

    Removing Stocks from the council is no mandate for more park design review delays. Let's just be happy with a dog park and world class skate park.

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  8. Wait a minute. Multiple boat access points making us special?

    http://encinitas.patch.com/articles/8-undocumented-aliens-arrested-after-boat-lands-at-ponto-beach

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  9. A follow-up?

    Okay.

    There are two versions.

    The first one is long. And I doubt that anyone really needs my opinion about a process which translates 18% of the votes into a "win." Like those in the 82% majority, I didn't vote for Tony Kranz.

    The second version--this one--is much shorter.

    I guess what bothers me the most is the part that's more important than the phone call I received from Kranz on October 8. The issue includes a question that's larger than my word against his.

    Re-read the October 9 story about the early sign displays. From a practical, realistic point of view, we are not talking here about crimes against humanity. However, when confronted with a question about his own signs being displayed early, Kranz immediately employed the "dog-ate-my-homework" strategy. He blamed someone else.

    Not only was his statement preposterous, his lack of further clarification creates at least a little void when it comes to the content of his character. Did he file a police report? If not, why didn't he? Isn't that what most people would do in the event of a burglary?

    Did he say, "Gee, I guess I shouldn't have left the garage door open? My bad." Nope.

    To be fair, it's also possible that he was misquoted in the story. But I have seen no explanation or clarification for what amounts to one of the most ridiculous excuses one could imagine under the circumstances.

    At the very least, shouldn't we expect a candidate (now an elected official) to think up a more plausible lie?

    Jim Babwe

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  10. A follow-up?

    Okay.

    There are two versions.

    The first one is long. And I doubt that anyone really needs my opinion about a process which translates 18% of the votes into a "win." Like those in the 82% majority, I didn't vote for Tony Kranz.

    The second version--this one--is much shorter.

    I guess what bothers me the most is the part that's more important than the phone call I received from Kranz on October 8. The issue includes a question that's larger than my word against his.

    Re-read the October 9 story about the early sign displays. From a practical, realistic point of view, we are not talking here about crimes against humanity. However, when confronted with a question about his own signs being displayed early, Kranz immediately employed the "dog-ate-my-homework" strategy. He blamed someone else.

    Not only was his statement preposterous, his lack of further clarification creates at least a little void when it comes to the content of his character. Did he file a police report? If not, why didn't he? Isn't that what most people would do in the event of a burglary?

    Did he say, "Gee, I guess I shouldn't have left the garage door open? My bad." Nope.

    To be fair, it's also possible that he was misquoted in the story. But I have seen no explanation or clarification for what amounts to one of the most ridiculous excuses one could imagine under the circumstances.

    At the very least, shouldn't we expect a candidate (now an elected official) to think up a more plausible lie?

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    1. For a teacher, J. Babwe is really bad at math.

      If you get 18% in a vote-for-three election, it does not mean 82% did not vote for you.

      No wonder our schools are so messed up if the teachers are this dumb.

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  11. Your alleged phone call attack being pimped and promoted by Andreen makes it BS in my book and I have no interest hearing what you and Andreen say.

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  12. Jim,

    We don’t support above comment above.

    We’ve been a little busy with our real jobs so we’ve not been able to follow up on things the way we’d like. Our apologies. We would welcome any submissions about the city and its leaders that you put together.

    I think you got the math wrong. It was a vote for three, so the max vote percentage was 33% not 100%, right?

    Didn’t you say Tony called you accusing you of stealing Tony’s signs? He was so genuine that you were worried you would go to jail?

    When the story came out that Tony did not know how the signs got on the street, a lot of people choked. It sounded like a story most people were going to think was a lie, thus, the alien cartoon and Jerome’s snipes.

    Your story cleared his name.

    Most people assume that you have played roles in the campaigns for the former council majority. To straighten that out, who’s election campaigns have you actively participated in? This is germane, and people are commenting on this, so lets straighten it out.

    How did you clear Tony’s story?

    So, someone from the other side was came forward with a story that only makes sense if Tony’s story was true. Your story make it sound like Tony had fabricated up a story to cover his ass in the press. It sounds like Tony thought you might have taken his signs and was asking you point blank (I have no idea of the content or nature of that conversation other than Jim’s account, which I’m willing to concede).

    If someone steals my homework and then I get asked where’s my homework, do I lie? The more I think about this, the more it seems like Tony is going to be a straight shooter. It sounds like he was straight with the press even though he knew it would sound bad and that he went straight to the person he suspected took his signs.

    As for not admitting he was an idiot for not strongly securing his garage, it is reported that he had actually been stating that. On the other hand, it says a lot about Leucadia these days that some people aren’t paranoid about locking up their house.

    Emails went around over a week ago about lots of signs being stolen. I’ve had campaign signs stolen numerous times and never thought to call the police. I have seen someone in the act of stealing campaign signs (Barth’s) and shortly followed the thieves in their car. When a sheriff happened to pull up next to me I told her what was going on. They were not interested.

    What’s interesting is that I recently saw a photograph of the thief. I didn’t think about going to the sheriff until right now.

    The emails going around this election say that the sheriffs refused to take police reports from residents on stolen signs, but said candidates could collect the accounts and inform the sheriff. Tony’s signs were stolen from peoples’ houses, but Tony did not appear to have turned in a report. The sheriffs aren’t going to do anything and it would be tough for a candidate to decide to waste the time of law enforcement. A lack of a report about signs stolen is probably way more likely than stolen signs being reported (attempted, at least).

    I’ve also had valuable items stolen and not reported it. It used to be a pain as well as waste of time to report. We had regular car break in’s on Saturday nights. The former Captain didn’t care, but maybe it was because it was me talking to him.

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    We should not expect our candidates to come up with more plausible lies. We should expect them to not lie, even when they know it might make them look bad. I think that is what Tony did, and it wasn’t until your SDRostra post that doubt was erased.

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  13. According to the City's website, as of May 2012, there were 37,789 registered voters in Encinitas. Kranz received (at last count) 9321 votes. Check my math but I think that's under 25% of the registered voters. That means approximately 75% of registered voters did not vote for him. People who have known me for a while know I never taught math. I know . . . it's no excuse. But notice that I haven't blamed the dog.

    Tony called me on Monday morning--October 8. He accused me of breaking into his garage, stealing his signs, and putting them out early (as Stocks and Muir were caught doing). He accused me of taking photos of the signs (out early) in order to embarrass him. In essence, he accused me of criminal behavior. I have never been to Tony's house. I do not know where he lives. I have never been a burglar.

    On Tuesday morning, October 9, the North County Times story appeared. That story, written by Barbara Henry, contained Tony's account of someone stealing the signs from his garage and putting the signs out early. My name did not appear in the story. But the fact that the NCT story matched the allegations he made over the phone to me on the previous day---let's just say it caught my attention.

    Campaigning? Unknown to more than a few candidates in several different elections (some right here in Encinitas) I have done photo and graphics work for candidates who were running against one another in the same elections. Yes, I have personal preferences that I express by voting. But I don't generally talk to anyone about the specifics. Assumptions about my support for certain candidates are just that--assumptions.

    So for clarity's sake--Tony Kranz did not accuse me of stealing signs from where they were posted or otherwise displayed on the street. He accused me of going to his home and stealing signs from his garage. He accused me of putting these signs out on the street earlier than they were supposed to be displayed.

    The next morning (Tuesday, October 9) the following appeared in the Barbara Henry NCT story:

    He (Stocks) and Muir also said they weren't the only ones who jumped the gun. Both men mentioned candidate Tony Kranz, saying he had his signs out days before they did.

    Kranz said Monday morning that a few of his signs did briefly appear along Leucadia Boulevard last week, well before Saturday, but that he didn't put them up and neither did his supporters.
    (See next entry).

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  14. Acknowledging that it sounds far-fetched, Kranz said those signs were stolen from his garage, which he accidentally left open Wednesday night. He said he thinks the thief later stuck them up along the road and then photographed them to make him look bad.

    "In fact, I was shocked to find signs at Leucadia Boulevard (on Thursday morning), I actually gathered them up. ... It's against the law," he said.

    Bottom line? I do not give a rat's most southerly corporeal feature whether candidates for Encinitas City Council display their campaign signs a few hours or a few days early. In the overall scheme of existence, the issue is trivial. And the people who want to inflate the acts of those who illegally posted signs a few days early can yell and scream all they like. But isn't there a point where the outcry about whether "anal retentive" needs a hyphen should end?

    So put yourself in my shoes. Imagine if you will (Rod Serling voice goes here), you receive an angry phone call from an angry person who falsely accuses you of a criminal act. Was I redunant when I used the word "angry" or did I just repeat myself for no good reason? Instead of reminding someone to do the math to figure out what's redundant as opposed to a rhetorical statement composed with satirical intent, I will maintain the kind of generally acceptable decorum that excludes the use of vulgar language here. Continuing . . . imagine the angry person is a candidate for public office and is a very loud, momentarily (at least) irrational individual who had no interest in listening as you attempted to explain that his allegations could not possibly be true. Remember that the allegations implicate you in criminal behavior. Next, imagine that you read a story in the local newspaper (on the following morning) that basically paraphrases the same allegations he made directly to you over the phone.

    In terms of a progression of events, what would be some of the possibilities that you might reasonably expect to happen? What kinds of actions (if any) would you take?

    I wrote about the incident and spoke about it not to support any of the other candidates. I told my story because not doing so would be negligent. Maybe you don't believe me. I can't control that. Based upon experience, however, I stand by my statement that Tony Kranz (or any other candidate for public office who behaves the same way he spoke to me) is not suited for service as an elected public official.

    I hope I'm wrong.

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  15. Holy cow! Did I misspell "redundant." I did. Good thing I didn't misspell it twice, eh?

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    1. Jim,

      Did you or did you not attend Tony and Lisa's campaign kickoff in coordination with the fake "Occupiers" with the intention to falsely smear their campaign?

      Inquiring minds want to know.

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  16. No. But I employed double negatives which might or might not indicate the absence or presence of sobriety in a person who would falsely smear fake occupiers who had nowhere else to go--unless they decided to go elsewhere against their will.
    So the answer is this--in the words Alex Trebec (which he did not speak), "Sorry, you forgot to make your statement in the form of a question so any agreement or disagreement could be interpreted with a simple request for you to ask questions that are realistic and coherent instead of pretending to not make allegations which would be impossible to substantiate in a non-fictional way."

    Wanna play some Scrabble?

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    1. I'll take that obfuscation as an admission of guilt.

      If you weren't an agent of Stocks and Andreen, you'd answer the question.

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    1. Are there no ethical standards for teachers either?

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  18. Proof that memory is defective at times . . . I actually did work openly on behalf of a candidate for city council. Bob Nanninga. In fact, you can contact him via facebook and ask about photos I took. http://www.facebook.com/bob.nanninga?fref=ts

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  19. Jim,

    We certainly can't be against public discourse. Don't read that into my comments. It would be incorrect.

    Did you mean this response,"I think you got the math wrong. It was a vote for three, so the max vote percentage was 33% not 100%, right?", to your important statement that, "Like those in the 82% majority..." You later request that your math be checked.

    This is a very strong point. It is super scary. There are very few checks and balances on the city council. Now we have new council members who were not voted for by 77% (Lisa), 75% (Tony), 81% (Mark) of the voters (Applying the same calculations as yours).

    What should be the public's response?

    The numbers may not be that bad, but still sobering.

    Let's start with,
    "37,789 registered voters in Encinitas."

    But at least 50,668 votes were cast for CC. Something is wrong.

    There were 21086 votes cast for prop K. If those folks were the ones who voted for a council candidate then Tony got 44% of the vote. That is super far from a landslide and not a majority.

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  20. Jim,

    Your memory is bad. Check your records to find out how many other candidates you and Andreen have provided campaign work.

    Don't go around saying you're not political when you have been doing election campaign work.

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    1. I must say Jim Babwe has soiled his legacy.

      I previously knew of Babwe only that he was a Leucadian who did funky poetry. That would have been a fine epitaph.

      Now I learn that he is a political dirty trickster, and Mike Andreen's stooge, which makes him Jerome Stocks' grandstooge. Is that really how he wants to be remembered?

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  21. I remain unconcerned about unsubstantiated allegations from an anonymous coward.

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  22. Ban all campaign signs. They are visual blight and clutter, nothing more than physical spam.

    Burning question: why do all the perennial political players in this town have arrested development? Every election plays out like a high school drama.

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  24. Signs are already outlawed in the right-of-way and 30 days before the election. That didn't work.

    There will be drama as long as campaigns are fueled by lies and deceptions. Stocks, Muir, Andreen and their associates and supports brought us this year's lies and deceptions.

    Why? They can't win on openness and the truth. Dishonestly results in drama. How? Big developer money.

    Why won't Jim just answer the question. Jim, are you part of the Andreen posse?

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  25. Jim is part of the Stocks posse.... Andreen was a death blog to the Stocks posse..... that posse got wiped off the face of the City in this election. Andreen is now just a past voice in Encinitas. Anyone who listens to him is a fool. He doesn't even live in Encinitas after losing his house because he doesn't pay his bills.

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  26. Jim is part of the Stocks posse.... Andreen was a death blog to the Stocks posse..... that posse got wiped off the face of the City in this election. Andreen is now just a past voice in Encinitas. Anyone who listens to him is a fool. He doesn't even live in Encinitas after losing his house because he doesn't pay his bills.

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  27. I don't remember quoting myself in the past, but I'm going to take advantage of the opportunity to do so now.

    "Nobody’s perfect. I understand that part. But Kranz lost my vote on Monday.

    I won’t be so presumptuous as to tell anyone else how to vote, but if Tony Kranz is elected, those of you who want to dump Jerome Stocks because you think he’s arrogant will have to clear the way for another kind of potential behavior that puts arrogance into an entirely new (and relatively harmless) light.

    I also need to add this. Those people who want to be regarded as intelligent, fair-minded, trustworthy, and ethical might be able to maintain the appearance of those values in the eyes of their friends and neighbors. But if they continue to express their disdain for candidates who put up campaign signs a couple of hours early while ignoring or otherwise minimizing the atrocious (and threatening) behavior of Tony Kranz—I will know them as hypocrites."

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  28. One more thing for now . . . if you want to continue this "discussion" with me, feel free to call me at school. Tony has my number.

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  29. I thought you said Tony called you on your private number.

    People got rid of Jerome because of what he did to the future of our city.


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  30. As for signs being up early, you can read our stuff. Not everyone thought it was a crime against humanity.

    We both think lying is bad. If fabricating stories about early signs is a bid deal, and it would be bad if it had turned out to be true, then what about all the lies and misdirections by current council members, related to BIG DEAL issues? That's bad too?

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  31. There's an interesting side story here regarding the guys holding the Occupy signs at Kranz and Shaffer's campaign kickoff at city hall. A few weeks ago, a number of Encinitas residents answered a phone survey asking them how they were going to vote for city council. Not suspicious in itself, but then the respondents were asked what they thought of the Occupy movement. Hmmn. Lo and behold a couple of weeks later, a hit piece arrives in the mail trying to tie Kranz and Shaffer to the Occupy movement. Coincidence?

    In any case, I'm relieved that this type of activity has been rejected by the voters. We deserved better, and now we've got better. Time to move forward.

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  32. Jim,

    You didn't answer the question.

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  33. The signs this year were out of control but the slate mailers were the worst crime of the election by far. The hit piece on Tony was a new low for this town. As for signs, anyone know why the SD mayors race had signs out on 101 and Leucadia Blvd?

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  34. LL,

    If San Diego and Orange County developers can fund our council candidates, why can't San Diego candidates troll for votes and/or money here?

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  35. It's good to see all the sign blight gone. I see that Demaio still has his out in various locations around the city. Just another GOP poor loser who can't believe he lost.

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