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I wish Leucadia could secede from Encinitas, too.

2008-12-18T20:51:00.000-08:00

I wish Leucadia could secede from Encinitas, too.

Last poster-How wrong you are about how rich Cardi...

2008-11-26T08:13:00.000-08:00

Last poster-How wrong you are about how rich Cardiffians are. I bought my home in Cardiff 1986 for $115,000. At that time, no one went to San Diego to work-it was just too far. There were artists, surfers, and so called "hippies" living here. It was wonderful. Then the City planning dept. decided we were just too easy and gave some rich people the opportunity to build huge McMansions here. Ask Dr. Lorri about Marion Ross from Happy Days. But, as they say, don't get her started. I was around when she appealed the decision by Kerry Kusiak and the City Council to let Marion have a 29'6" roof, blocking 7 views on our street. She wanted it and Jim Bond said, "dog gone it, she deserves it.". Of course, she dosn't live there but that was not a concern to the City. She was a famous person-enough said. She even has her name on the Cardiff Kook. es, that is what so from me of us call it too. Many of us would like to secede from Encinitas-so the City can take the Hall Property and shove it. Since we have that liability, they will never let us. Solana Beach would love to have us. Ask their Mayor.

Don't try to pond those sports parks off on Leucad...

2008-11-25T22:39:00.000-08:00

Don't try to pond those sports parks off on Leucadia (OK with sending them to Village Park or Olivenhain).

If you're looking to collect money to litigate the city - I suggest, you look into your own fat wallets. Your the only ones to win financial with those million dollar homes in Cardiff.

I hope you suceed, just don't ask me for money!

Last post:1. The City cannot sell the land. It was...

2008-11-24T08:21:00.000-08:00

Last post:
1. The City cannot sell the land. It was purchased with Lease Revenue Bonds with the intention to build a Park.
2. Developers are in sad shape right now. What developer would buy it for as much as the City paid for it?
3. You should learn about density bonus programs before you suggest the City sell any land to developers. It seems on Olevenhein gets the "special" privileges of having actual land surronding their home. Not sure why that is.

Why can't the city sell 22 acres on the Cardiff so...

2008-11-24T08:07:00.000-08:00

Why can't the city sell 22 acres on the Cardiff south and west sides to a developer to build homes at 1 unit per acre, and use the proceeds to buy cheaper land elsewhere for the sports league private club?

The other 22 acres would be sufficient for a nice community park. 22 homes at one home per acre would be reasonable.

And the city would end up with more park space. Win win win.

The park shouldn't only be used for soccer purpose...

2008-11-23T23:25:00.000-08:00

The park shouldn't only be used for soccer purposes, we need to have a section for skate boarders, swimmers and out door concerts (residents outside Cardiff should have to pay more).

I agree with JP's original post on this. We put o...

2008-11-23T16:15:00.000-08:00

I agree with JP's original post on this. We put out fliers and had a sign for Rachelle and Bob. We put forth effort and attended all but the Olivenhain forum.

I was sad that Stocks and Bond got re-elected. They count on not needing a majority, just a plurality, to win. Then they can "gang up" with Dan, and cram unwise decisions down our throats.

I hope that Citizens for Quality of Life bring up the lack of checks and balances. Our Local government has no separation of powers between the executive, legislative and judicial branches. This is especially true because the local courts, including the Court of Appeals tend to favor government entities over individuals. Because the Quality of Lifers are a citizens' GROUP, well represented, I hope they have a better chance. That was not the case for Leucadia Cares, however. The Judges in Superior Court, and the District Attorney give too much power to City Managers and City Attorneys who get paid more than they do, in many cases. Our City Attorney and our City Manager make significantly more than the elected County District Attorney. I was hopeful about her, but I would never vote for her again, either.

Anyway, if the settlement is final re the accident on Santa Fe, anyone can put in a public information request to see how much the City paid. Settlement agreements by the City ARE NOT CONFIDENTIAL and once they are signed, they can be obtained through a CPRA request, within ten days of the request.

To me the real shame is that the City is acting as a developer, directly, on this project, and that it appealed it's own planning commission's thoughtful decision, which would have only eliminated one multi purpose (full size soccer field, or football field - Normally youth soccer is played on half fields) and would have retained at least two dedicated baseball diamond fields, as well.

I believe what is being questioned now is five multi use fields, meaning league soccer, football or lacrosse, and three baseball diamond fields. The multi use term is deceiving, because neighborhood kids and locals won't be able to use the fields for "pick-up games" or non-league play. They will all be booked, or "locked closed" for refurbishing the grass. And we don't want synthetic turf!

Naw, Doug wouldn't plumb the park. But I would kee...

2008-11-23T13:08:00.000-08:00

Naw, Doug wouldn't plumb the park. But I would keep an eye on him if he suddently has 40 acres of that phoney grass available to sell - (like the stuff that looks great in front of his shop.)

In the meantime, how 'bout some seed bombs!

2008-11-23T12:43:00.000-08:00

In the meantime, how 'bout some seed bombs!

No can do poster above. This money was spent to de...

2008-11-23T11:45:00.000-08:00

No can do poster above. This money was spent to develop a Park. It cannot be sold or you will see so many lawsuits it will backrupt this City. Compromise between the soccer people and the rest of the City (except the 3 unwise men) is the only way this can be a win-win.

You better be careful playing on the existing surf...

2008-11-23T11:06:00.000-08:00

You better be careful playing on the existing surface. This was a greenhouse using who knows what pesticides over the years. DDT for one. Maybe they know this and are afraid to let development start knowing that the longer we wait people will forget who is responsible.
How many are for selling or trading part of the property for development so as to acquire parkland in other parts of the city? Could this ease concerns about the park being so vast? Or too much traffic? Or entries to the park?

There is not $17 million set aside for the Hall pr...

2008-11-23T09:32:00.000-08:00

There is not $17 million set aside for the Hall property. The budget information claims about half of that amount. Yet $2 million of the Hall fund was shifted in the current fiscal year to cover holes in other parts of the budget.

In 2006 the city borrowed $20 million to finish building the library because it had run out of money. Jerome Stock likes to trumpet the excellent financial condition of the city. But this is all built on borrowed money. It is not the best place to be with falling income and rising expenses.

The city doesn't have the money to build the sports complex. Will Stocks, Bond, and Dalager attempt to use Lease Revenue Bonds to borrow more money? The city borrowed $43 million in the last 7 years, which will cost $85 million to repay. Will the three financial feather weights burden us with an additional $100 million in debt without voter approval of a tax increase?

I don't think the election was a referendum on the sport complex. The council has always been afraid to put the question to a direct vote of the citizens. The vote would be a simple Yes or No on a $100 million sports complex.

Let us decide. The three men will never agree to it.

the City has done so much wrong and they continue ...

2008-11-23T09:16:00.000-08:00

the City has done so much wrong and they continue to ignore the dangerous conditions around town. all of our future money will be going to lawsuites.

Pure shame.

$17 million was before the settlement for the laws...

2008-11-23T09:14:00.000-08:00

$17 million was before the settlement for the lawsuite over the kid that was killed because the conditions on Sante Fe

The City didn't disclose what that has cost yet, but I'm sure its at least $5 million.

The remainder will be taken from the near future lawsuits from the dangerous conditions at the Leucadia Railroad crossing, and lawsuits over the Hall EIR.

The money is gone. Nothing will get built.

There is already about 17 million set aside for th...

2008-11-23T08:28:00.000-08:00

There is already about 17 million set aside for the Hall Property. I don't know if they will have to use it for the lawsuit, but I do know it is there right now. Watch out for who gets the contracts for the infrastructure. Remember Doug Long is a plummer. The Parks and Rec. Commission did not get to weigh in on this Park. Is there a connection so that Long will not have to recuse himself when it comes time for bidding the contract. That kind of contract could make Mr. Long a very wealthy man. Was this thought of? WHo know? Nothing would surprise me with this Park.

7:42-We are not stupid.The employees received what...

2008-11-23T07:58:00.000-08:00

7:42-

We are not stupid.

The employees received what they want, 14% more pay, and huge pension increase (30% of your highest paying year- FOREVER), and no work because there is no more money to complete any projects and there is no development.

Life is a cake walk at City Hall. We might as well only work 4 or 3 days a week. There's really nothing to do anyway.

10:34Chances are, they'd get married and adopt.

2008-11-22T22:55:00.001-08:00

10:34

Chances are, they'd get married and adopt.

10:34Chances are, they'd get married and adopt.

2008-11-22T22:55:00.000-08:00

10:34

Chances are, they'd get married and adopt.

Jerome is back blogging at red county again.http:/...

2008-11-22T19:43:00.000-08:00

Jerome is back blogging at red county again.

http://www.redcounty.com/sandiego/2008/11/encinitas-election-results/

The EIR was complete months ago but the boys didn'...

2008-11-22T19:42:00.000-08:00

The EIR was complete months ago but the boys didn't want this issue resolved that far before the election....they needed a wedge issue.

With the cooperation of the City Manager and other city staffers, it was brought forward just prior to the election to coincide with the "Go Long for Stocks and Bond" flyer.

Politically motivated pure and simple.

For the children.....no way.

nothing wrong with open land. its called open spa...

2008-11-22T18:30:00.000-08:00

nothing wrong with open land. its called open space.

The voters have spoken.Their will is for a sports ...

2008-11-22T18:28:00.000-08:00

The voters have spoken.

Their will is for a sports park. I think there should be no parking at all and everyone should have to walk to the park.

The Hall property has sat idle now for six years, ...

2008-11-22T17:47:00.000-08:00

The Hall property has sat idle now for six years, while we pay interest on bonds used to purchase the land. Open up the land and let us use it as is. We can scratch out a ballfield and a soccer field and play in the dirt, just like kids do. We can park our cars in the dirt -- I don't think this will harm our tires. We can rent the land to a circus, or the Cirque du Soleil. We could install a driving range real cheap. Why let the land sit idle while the attorneys fight it out. Plant some native flowers so at least the land doesn't look blighted.

I agree. At least the court actions will hang it ...

2008-11-22T17:45:00.000-08:00

I agree. At least the court actions will hang it up for years.

Yes, a community park with three fields would prob...

2008-11-22T16:45:00.000-08:00

Yes, a community park with three fields would probabally have been built by now.
All that money wasted is a shame.
All that was necessary was a compromise.
But no. We now have no fields or any public use and huge interest payments that we are funding for access to nothing.
Unfortunately, I and many others will put money and energy into stopping this current plan. This is not a waste of time and money. If this effort to have a community park fails, I will know that the money and effort is for a noble cause. To offer something good for all the citizens is Encinitas, not just the minority of organized sports supporters and to maintain the character of our beloved beach community. I do not wish to sit and do nothing while our beach area morphs into an unpleasant, 90 ft. Pole lit, overcrowded home of the Irvine-mentalityed Special Use Sports crowd.